Jim,
We at Williams International have gone through 2 that's two lasers per
year! We consider our selves lucky to have gotten close to the 4000 hour
mark on the latest laser. As for the $9000 per year utility bill make
sure that you check locally as we pay several times this per year! I
have heard of a few that went with the DuPont, Lyconix upgrade and are
very happy with it. In fact their excitement over the installation and
performance changes have prompted us to consider it as well. Please
don't ask who "they" are as I have been asked to keep that to my self
until they have gained more experience and time using the laser and
resin.
Karl
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From: owner-rp-ml
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 10:50 AM
To: SDeak; rp-ml
Subject: Re: SLA500 Solid State Upgrade
Steve,
Again, how do I ask my investors, after spending ~$500K 2 years
ago for the SLA-500 that is now worth less than half, for
another $100K? How dependable
is the solid state laser system? Are they more or less reliable?
I have had no MAJOR problem, yet, with my SLA-5000, but I have
only had it since April. The SLA-500 is a different story, which
could fill a 100 page book and it was suppose to be a proven
machine!
Ok, lets figure this out!
$ 9,000 Utilities savings per year
$38,000 gas laser savings per 6000 hours? I currently have 6200
hours at 200mw at 59.3 amps and 15 months old. Is this
average?
~$47,000 savings 1st year?
$25,000 solid state laser cost? per 10,000 hours?
If solid state last 10,000 hours, the laser should last 1.5 to 2 yrs.
This looks good, but I have to wait and see.
Jim
James P. Harrison Director Of Operations
3Dimensional Engineering www.3de.net; harrjp@juno.com
2991 N. Powerline Rd. Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
954-972-9906 (phone) 954-972-8903 (fax)
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:13:00 -0400 "Deak, Steve" <SDeak@hasbro.com>
writes:
>Jim:
>
>A solid state laser would last at least 5000 hours (that's the 350 is
>warranty). My 350 laser is at 9000 hours right now. The resin would
>have
>to be tuned to the solid-state laser wavelength, so the lower vat
>power
>would not necessarily result in slower draw speeds.
>
>See, the way I figure the cost savings, a solid state laser would save
>us
>US$9000/year in utilities and US$38,000/year for lasers (1/year
>through 3D
>Systems). Additionally, we would save the cost of downtime and lost
>builds
>for gas laser problems.
>
>
>Steve Deak
>
>> ----------
>> From: harrjp@juno.com[SMTP:harrjp@juno.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 8:54 AM
>> To: SDeak@hasbro.com
>> Subject: Re: SLA500 Solid State Upgrade
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Sorry I did not respond sooner. We bought our SLA-500 in 97' and it
>is
>> worth less than half what we paid for it. To spend $100K or more
>for an
>> upgrade would have to make money sense. It will not increase the
>value
>> of the
>> machine by 100K. It would have to reduce the operating and
>maintence
>> cost considerably.
>> Also, how much longer would the solid state laser last compare to
>gas?
>>
>> The "sanction" by 3D Systems is of no concern to me and
>> would not stop me from doing it. But I would like to hear more
>success
>> stories
>> before approving such an upgarde. We depend on our 500 too much to
>take
>> such
>> a risk without substandtial field testing.
>>
>> Have a good day,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> James P. Harrison Director Of Operations
>> 3Dimensional Engineering www.3de.net; harrjp@juno.com
>> 2991 N. Powerline Rd. Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
>> 954-972-9906 (phone) 954-972-8903 (fax)
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:03:02 -0400 "Deak, Steve" <SDeak@hasbro.com>
>> writes:
>> >My previous posting asked for input regarding the interest in a
>> >solid-state
>> >laser upgrade for the SLA500. My intent was to perhaps have enough
>
>> >interest
>> >in this type of upgrade to convince 3D Systems to offer such an
>> >upgrade.
>> >You see, if one performs this on your own, you void your machine
>> >maintenance/warranty.
>> >
>> >Since the potential cost range is US100K -US$150K, including resin
>(I
>> >think
>> >DuPont/Lyconix was $US99K), the responses were very low. There
>were
>> >11
>> >replies interested in such an upgrade if 3D Systems were to
>"sanction"
>> >it.
>> >I was surprised since I spoke with more users than this at the
>> >3DSNASUG who
>> >were very interested.
>> >
>> >Evidently the need is not there as I had assumed. Thanks to all
>who
>> >responded.
>> >
>> >____________________________________________________
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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