From: Rick (richardkiefer@3dconcepts2design.com)
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 23:29:00 EEST
I would love to see these files so I could give some input. It seems now a
days some people do not look for perfection and accuracy, they are willing
to pay for product from the stone age, which gives the quality houses who
take pride in each and every part that is built along with the best
materials on the market a hardship of trying to convince customers that you
get what you pay for, if people now a days want to pay cheap prices why
bother taking the advances of the technology and furthering it. Besides the
fly by night companies are only around til they lose enough that they can't
pay and then their gone.BUT the advance houses who give quality far above
the standards are still around. Figure that out !!! I agree 100% with Ron
Clemons,"you get whatyou pay for"
Richard Kiefer
3D Concepts 2 Design,Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi]On
Behalf Of Ron Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:01 PM
To: 'Rp-Ml (E-mail)
Subject: Re: RE: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
Okay, reality check:
> Any car vs. any car...
$8999 Hyundai Accent, base model
$128,950 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class, loaded
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$119,951 Difference
> Same model cars, different grades...
$24,950 Mercedes-Benz C-Class, base model
$49,900 Mercedes-Benz C-Class, loaded
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$24,950 Difference
> Any RP technology vs. any RP technology...
$275 Stair-stepped model, built in .010" layers, +/- .100" tolerance
$6000 Polished SLA, built in .004" layers, +/- .005" tolerancing
_________
$5725 Difference
> Same RP technologies, different grades...
$600 Bubble-filled SLA from ragged out machine, .006" layers, +/- .010"
tol.
$6000 Near-perfect SLA from new 7000 machine, .004" layers, +/- .005"
tol.
___________
$5400 Difference
...Seems perfectly understandable to me. My dad wasn't so stupid when he
said, "usually you get what you pay for"!
...............................................
Ron Clemons
Harvest Technologies
www.harvest-tech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bathsheba Grossman" <sheba@bathsheba.com>
To: "'Rp-Ml (E-mail)" <rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: [-3.60] RE: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Billett Mike wrote:
> > However, an observation rather than a moan... whilst I understand
> > that the complexity of the part and accuracy we require will steer
> > the cost of the model, also that I was extremely vauge about my
> > description of the part. I have recieved "ball park" figures ranging
> > from $275 USD to $6000 USD! Quite a spread wouldn't you say?
>
> On the high side, but wide spreads do seem to be typical of the field.
> Just the other day I had a model quoted by several companies - in each
> case exactly the same part, built with the same machine, without any
> postprocessing - and got back figures ranging from $450 to over $1200.
>
> One has the feeling that many RP users are not price-conscious, and
> that as a result some companies operate in fantasy-land.
>
> All one can do is avoid them and hope the market shakes down
> eventually. It's all very well for situations where there is a lot of
> craftsmanship, but in cases where build hours are a fungible commodity
> - any working machine is as good as any other - sooner or later a
> market rate should emerge.
>
> -Sheba
> --
> Bathsheba Grossman (831) 429-8224
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> Creative prototyping protoshape.com
>
>
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