Re: Joining & Removing From List (bounced2)

From: Douglas Mitchell (
Date: Fri Jan 23 1998 - 20:54:33 EET

On Jan 23, 7:19pm, Yakov Horenstein wrote:
> Subject: Re: Joining & Removing From List (bounced2)
> At 9:23 AM -0500 23/1/98, Douglas Mitchell wrote:

> So what exactly are you saying, that we shouldn't change anything? I would
> prefer the Reply option to be addressed to the List, and the ReplyAll
> option to include the sender. Maybe this seems like a small, unnecessary
> detail to some people, but I believe that this simple change would make a
> big difference to the quantity and quality of information that passes
> through rp-ml. If I have any knowledge of human behaviour, I would say most
> people who want to respond to a message just hit the Reply button and don't
> think too much about whether or not the message includes the List. In
> practice this means that many messages are left without a follow-up because
> the passage of information or the discussion continues privately. That is
> not fair to those subscribers who do not actively participate in the
> discussions (the majority of the List).

I guess I am saying that it is better to leave it alone. As was said
originally, bounced mail goes to everybody instead of just the
sender. I dislike getting bounced mail, but it can create a major
headache when it goes out to the list.

> >One of the lists that I am on adds a Postscript with information
> >on unsubscribing, another list has it in the header.
> Our administrators should include URL's pointing to adminstrative and other
> subjects (e.g.archives) automatically added to messages as they get
> distributed. That would reduce the numerous "please unscribe me (sic)"
> messages and others that flow through this List quite frequently. Adding a
> List sig. does present a problem when discussions get hot, however, because
> people quote other people's messages without trimming the originals before
> posting them, which in practice means that signatures get quoted and
> requoted over and over again, adding considerably to the length of each
> posting. The answer to this is to keep quotes to a minimum, and cut out
> unnecessary information, but that is probably too much to ask most people
> to do. My rule of thumb is: try to keep the entire message on one screen,
> maximum two.

The problem with sending a url is that not everybody can access
a web site. Some companies restrict access to the web by requiring
an account. I feel that it would be better to include in the header
instructions on how to unsubscribe. Something along the lines of:

>> to unsubscribe, send mail to "" with
>> the command - "unsubscribe rp-ml" in the body of the
>> message.

>-- End of excerpt from Yakov Horenstein

Doug Mitchell
Ford Motor Company

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