Re: Ignored

From: Bill Loyd (
Date: Fri Apr 30 1999 - 21:56:13 EEST

Pls.. remove from the mailing list.
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From: Michael Hirschmann <>
To: Hurley, Lynda J <>
Cc: <>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 1:35 PM
Subject: Ignored

>I'm a relatively new to the RP industry, and have much enjoyed this RP-ML
>a good source of knowledge and entertainment. This issue has helped on
>those counts, as I find it an interesting and productive discussion, and
>also a bit confusing and perhaps amusing.
>I retired from the energy business in Houston before my current involvement
>with RP. I think it's safe to say that that business is a bastion of
>conservatism, and some of the same issues were hot topics there as more
>non-WASP males continued to integrate into the business. My first hand
>experiences with this included things like hiring the first woman employee
>for a plant maintainance crew at a plant in the back woods of Oklahoma.
>What I learned from that is that it's hard to generalize. Some minority
>individuals fit in well, and some didn't, and it was as much up to the
>individuals as it is the group they were to fitting into (sounds a lot like
>non-minorities). I'm not saying that minorities didn't face special
>challenges, I'm saying some were more proficient at effectively meeting
>these and other challenges (ie That first woman on the crew was also a
>weight lifter (a detail that did catch my attention during the interview),
>and seemed to quickly become one of the gang after arm wrestling a few of
>the good ol boys. I believe she also kicked the $#*+ out of one of the
>obnoxious @$$%0!+$ on the crew, although I never heard about that, as that
>would have required official action on my part).
>I also contend that often times we find what we're looking for. I'm
>guessing humans spend a good portion of their wake hours reaffirming their
>beliefs by seeing into the world that which they already know. And then
>occassionally, we get jolted by something that derails our repeating cycles
>and we grow a little.
>(The "IT'S UP TO YOU" t-shirts can be purchased for a nominal fee upon
>Signed, Happy to be here Hirschmann
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