From: Marshall Burns (
Date: Fri Aug 11 2000 - 00:21:58 EEST


    Thanks for your comments.

    I'm still waiting to see what prices Karl is going to charge for his
toys. But I don't expect them to compete on price with purchases at
Toys-R-Us. Karl is stepping out on the bleeding edge of custom toy delivery
and he has become a pioneer of what will one day be a $billions industry.
Karl's market is certainly going to have to be a very specialized,
stratospheric class of toy buyers in the near term. Whether he can make
money in that market is yet to be seen. But the same is true of Jeff Bezos.
I stand by my "very, very, very, very." He deserves our support.

Best regards,
Marshall Burns
President, Ennex Corporation
Los Angeles, USA, (310) 397-1314

----- Original Message -----
From: <Richard_Doyle/>
To: "Marshall Burns" <>
Cc: "Karl R. Denton" <>; <>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 13:35 PM
Subject: Re:

> Cool, yes. Very, very very...I don't know.
> Before I get labeled a naysayer, please understand that as an employee of
> large RP manufacturer, I am fully aware of the cost of the various RP
> We're talking tens of thousands of dollars here just for the machines, not
> including the cost of materials, labor to model the parts, labor to finish
> parts, shipping, etc. How do you propose to make these toys inexpensive
> for the average parent? Let's take the scepter for example...assuming CAD
> of 30 minutes or so at an average industry rate of $30/hr, plus SLA
machine time
> of 2-4 hours at whatever is being charged these days ($$$$), add the time
> completely finish the part ($15-$20/hr) and you have a toy that costs
> between $500-$2000. Granted, it's unique. But when parents are choking on
> for a Sega or Nintendo system, how do you convince someone to spend this
kind of
> money on a static (again, albeit unique) toy?
> I agree that putting RP in front of the masses is a good idea (hey, it's
how I
> make my living too). But until the price of these parts comes down to a
> that those same masses can afford, I don't see a (near) future in this.
> The opinions expressed here are strictly my own.
> Richard Doyle
> CAD Designer
> "Marshall Burns" <> on 08/08/2000 06:10:54 PM
> To: "Karl R. Denton" <>,
> cc: (bcc: Richard Doyle/DTM)
> Subject:

> Karl,
> This is very, very, very, very cool!
> Best regards,
> Marshall Burns
> President, Ennex Corporation

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