RE: 3d for 2k event

From: Charles Overy (
Date: Tue Jun 25 2002 - 20:19:18 EEST

I think that the margin would come in the supplies. As HP and Epson have
shown in the printer market, the real revenues are in the ink. I think
that Zcorp and Stratasys will validate this business model with their new
under $30K printers.

However, I wonder, even with off the shelf parts if you can get under $2K.
I am very interested to see even a "spreadsheet design" of this machine.

Good luck to all.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: []On Behalf
Of David K. Leigh
  Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:32 AM
  Subject: RE: 3d for 2k event

  I have a hard time getting computers, printers, and copiers less than
$2,000. Of course, it can be done. Computers are now regularly under $2k,
and printers range from the ultimate cheap to $2k. . . But, high quality
copiers. . . hmmm

  Why would u want to develop something that would have no margin. And, if
they purchased a $2k system, what would be the ancilary equipment needs?
  Computer $1400
  Desk $100
  Software $2500

  Not to talk about software and hardware maintenance.

  David K. Leigh (254) 933-1000
  Harvest Technologies, Inc. fax (254) 298-0125
  Rapid Prototyping Services

    -----Original Message-----
    From: []On
Behalf Of Steven Pollack
    Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:56 AM
    Subject: Re: 3d for 2k event


    Doesn't this contest pre-suppose that a $2000 RP machine is a
possibility? Maybe it is possible so then my question becomes if you know
of the technology that would make this happen how come no commercial company
is working on it?

      ----- Original Message -----
      To: ;
      Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:42 AM
      Subject: RE: 3d for 2k event

      What's the point 3D Systems will sue the crap out of the winner
claiming some form of patent infringement!

      Karl R. Denton

      Lead Engineer

      RP and Casting Operations

      Williams International

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Elaine Hunt []
      Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:52 AM
      To: RPML
      Subject: 3d for 2k event

      The idea of 3d for 2k has been kicked around for a number of years...
so below are ideas for comments, suggestions, and flames, plus


      (3D under $2K)
      3 Dimensional Replicator Competition

      Vision: To produce functional designs for low cost machines that can
replicate 3 dimensional objects from computer data models. (CAD, 3D Imaging,
and VR file formats)

      Mission: To encourage students (and home hobbyists) to build a 3
dimensional replicating system for less than $2K that is capable of building
useful parts.


      Design a 3D replicating system using "off the shelf" or easy to
fabricate parts, that can be built for less than $2000 USD. Thereby
increasing public awareness of prototyping technologies and the use of 3
dimensional replication.

              Must submit an object replicated by the system.
      Must describe and demonstrate the operational parameters.
      Must describe or demonstrate the use or function of the replicated
              Must identify the costs of build materials and operation.
              Must submit a report with construction diagrams, parts list
and costs.
              Must be public domain work.

      Time Frame: Work must begin in ? 2002 and final submission of paper
and models must be made by ? , 2003. (ideas of timing are welcome)

      Promotion: Entrants must be willing to be interviewed by the media and
promote the competition.

      Judging: A committee of business leaders will select finalists based
on quality of replicated objects, ease of use, functionality of objects, and
cost to create the system and the replicated objects.

      Finalist Judging: Replicator systems must be operational during event
held for judging.

      Publication: All submissions will be posted on a web site with
complete plans and materials lists available. 2004 competition will build on
previous work.

      "In war, attempts thought to be impossible do often for that very
reason become possible and practical, because nobody expects them and no
precautions are taken to guard against them." Benjamin Franklin

      Elaine Hunt, Director
      Laboratory to Advance Industrial Prototyping
      100 Fluor Daniel Building
      Clemson University
      Clemson, SC 29634

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