RE: a story

From: JP Harrison (
Date: Fri Jun 28 2002 - 18:46:22 EEST

We use Dennis Fogle at National RP Support. He was here last week. Our
SLA5000 laser is at 280mw with over 12,000 hours. He also services our
SLA500 and SLA250. When it comes time to replace the laser, he will only
replace the needed components. The cost will be far less than what 3D
Systems charges!


James P. Harrison
Director Of Operations
3Dimensional Engineering
2991 N. Powerline Rd.
Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
Phone: 954-972-9906
  -----Original Message-----
  From: []On Behalf
Of Paul Bordner
  Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:19 PM
  Subject: RE: a story

  It has been a while since I have read listings on the RPML, and this story
caught my eye that was listed back on May 29th from Bruce @ Eagle Design &
Technology, Inc. I feel your pain and only hope that you have been able to
bounce back and recover.

  We have been feuding this past week over getting a new laser on our
SLA5000. Last June I signed a four year deal for our 2 SLA5000 machines.
One of which was put on an Elite contract for one of the four years
anticipating that we would need a new laser before June 28th of 2002. Smart
idea to amortize a $38,000 laser over a 12 month time period....wrong.
Since our laser is not below minimum spec, they will not replace it, even
though a technician who was in last week to tune the laser said we would be
lucky to get 2 more months from this laser. Below is a partial response to
our problem:

  "... current policy which was the policy back in 2001 , we will replace as
many components as needed to keep your machine running above our minimum
specifications. In the past our MHSL contract had a limit on how many lasers
would be replaced under contract. The change to the Elite contract was
designed to provide our customers with less risk and higher value at a
substantial cost savings over our previous years contracts."

  Can anyone see the "value and substantial cost savings" when I never got a
replacement laser in the 12 month timeframe that was basically paid for?

  Moral of the story, there are several choices for service on your SLA
machines with added value and costs savings (substantial). I urge everyone
to look at the other choices and do not sign any extended contracts unless
there is a easy way out. Do not make the same mistake that we did. I am
sure we have legal ramifications here and we will be pursuing that avenue!
But, why do we need to go to this extent when we are the customer?

  I have many other stories, and have heard that line "it must be the resin"
many times. I even switched resins to eliminate that issue, then it became
an issue again earlier this year. I finally got smart and switched all my
machines over to a resin that to date has ran quite nicely in all five of
our machines. And now my resin is causing the auto-refill door to fall off
and the o-rings to deteriote. Incredible!

  Paul Bordner II
  VP of Operations
  Laser Reproductions
  501 Morrison Rd Suite 101
  Gahanna, Ohio 43230

  phone 614.470.6905
  fax 614.470.6907
  mobile 614.206.0436

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