RE: Body part libraries

From: Andy Christensen (
Date: Fri Aug 30 2002 - 17:36:29 EEST

Eitan, et al,

I would agree with others comments, this man (visible male) and woman
(visible female) freely gave their bodies to science. My information
is that he was a prisoner and she was just an ordinary citizen. My
guess is that if you would count the number of amazing things that have
come from the two projects it would be astounding. I know that many
data libraries have been established to allow medical students to
analyze the data and even perform simulated surgery on these models.
This will hopefully allow for surgeons to be better practiced on surgery
without having to do some of that training on you or I. Here's what the
National Library of Medicine says about the purpose of the project:

"The Visible Human Project data sets are designed to serve as a common
reference point for the study of human anatomy, as a set of common
public domain data for testing medical imaging algorithms, and as a test
bed and model for the construction of image libraries that can be
accessed through networks. The data sets are being applied to a wide
range of educational, diagnostic, treatment planning, virtual reality,
artistic, mathematical and industrial uses by over 1,400 licensees in 42
countries. But key issues remain in the development of methods to link
such image data to text-based data. Standards do not currently exist for
such linkages. Basic research is needed in the description and
representation of image based structures, and to connect image-based
structural-anatomical data to text-based functional-physiological data.
This is the larger, long-term goal of the Visible Human Project: to
transparently link the print library of functional-physiological
knowledge with the image library of structural-anatomical knowledge into
one unified resource of health information."

I would hope that if I donate my body it would be of the same benefit to
mankind as these two individuals. We all benefit from this project and
should strongly support the ongoing work it proposes.

Just my 2cents,

Medical Modeling LLC
17301 W. Colfax Ave., Ste. 300
Golden, CO 80401 USA
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Fax: 303-277-9472

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Eitan Priluck
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Body part libraries

I would like to take a moment to raise an important issue in regards to
the posts from time to time that call for the use of human scan data.
Invariably the thread will lead in a meaningful way to the possible use
of the National Library of Medicines Visible Human Data Set. As such I
would like to take a brief moment and step up on the soap box and make a
short little statement.
I would encourage anyone on moral grounds not to be involved with data
acquired from the Visible Human Project. It was aquired from a convicted
felon on death row who was scanned before his execution and then after
his execution frozen and physically sliced into thousands of micortome
layers. The use of prisoners in this fashion is a dangerous road to
take even one step down.
On a personal note I used this data myself once and still feel guilty
about doing so to this day. Please join me in refraining from
participating in this sort of human rights abuse.
Ok thats all; I'll step down from my box and hope that my message made
its mark.
Eitan Priluck
Biomedical Modeling Inc. wrote:
Or you could purchase a program called Poser 4.0 and get the High
body's from DAZ 3D. They have high res female/make and skeleton files.

Karl R. Denton
Lead Engineer
RP and Casting Operations
Williams International

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Christensen []
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:47 PM
To: 'Jim Williams'; 'Bibb, Richard (PDR)'; 'RP Mailing list (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: Body part libraries

Hello Jim,

If you are looking to purchase ready-made files I would contact Visible
Productions in Ft. Collins, CO. They do great work and have compiled
their database of human anatomy from the visible human project and other
studies. They can also give you the file in many different formats to
suit your needs. I believe that they are also the ones providing some
of the anatomical data you can purchase from Viewpoint Datalabs
( Contact them at
These guys are definitely experts and have spent much time making the
models "prettier" than what you'd be able to pull out of the visible
human yourself.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Medical Modeling LLC
17301 W. Colfax Ave., Ste. 300
Golden, CO 80401 USA
Ph: 888-273-5344
Fax: 303-277-9472

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Jim Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:47 AM
To: 'Bibb, Richard (PDR)'; Jim Williams; RP Mailing list (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Body part libraries

Thanks for your suggestion. We've actually connected with Hugo. I think
Visual Human Project and Hugo are one and the same. The sight and the
data is cumbersome and somewhat inadequate. Not to say we lack a lot of
experience in pulling out specific body parts. We're still novices and
I'm searching for alternatives.

Many thanks,
Jim Williams
-----Original Message-----
From: Bibb, Richard (PDR) []
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:40 AM
To: 'Jim Williams'; RP Mailing list (E-mail)
Subject: Body part libraries

Dear Jim and list,

If you do a web search I guess you may find people who have 3D files of
various body parts, usually bones and joints but other stuff too. The
alternative is to get access to the Visual Human Project. It contains CT
and MRI data of two whole people. There are conditions that apply and
you have to register to get access but once you do you can theoretically
create any bits you want.

Dr. Richard Bibb
Western Avenue
Tel. +44 (0) 29 2041 6723
Fax. +44 (0) 29 2041 6973

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