RE: [rp-ml] Moving the RPML

From: Jason Barkla (
Date: Tue Jul 03 2007 - 00:24:26 EEST

Hi Ed,
Just get that server moved! Certainly GARPA support would be fantastic
also. The list in it's current form is simple and is searchable via
browser keyword search though a bit unwieldy given the shear amount of
posts on a single archive page.
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Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2007 4:13 AM
Subject: [rp-ml] Moving the RPML

Hi Folks:


Thanks to all who've responded. I hope the discussion eventually
results in a reasonable consensus on what to do. I'm very happy to hear
that Hannu is possibly going to continue to be involved and that he has
found possibilities that might offer continuity and stability. The idea
of the SME, GARPA or a related RP-involved organization hosting the RPML
is, I think, probably the best way to make sure that the discussion
remains as open as possible.


Thanks to Deeplip and others for suggesting and setting up test Google
and Yahoo Groups, and also the suggestion for FreeLists. I finally had
a chance to look at these this morning. I think they're good secondary
possibilities, but only if nothing simpler can be worked out. Also,
porting more than a decade of archives to such services might be very
difficult or require a lot of effort.


The mailing list format is preferable, and a continuation of the RPML
that doesn't require members to opt-in (again) by creating individual
accounts, as seems the case with Yahoo and Google, is also highly


The majority of members never post, but they do seem to listen. The
mailing list format lets them do that without effort. It also fosters
the possibility that they will post in the future if the discussion
piques their interest enough to overcome their shyness. Requiring
readers to exert conscious effort such as going to a web page
periodically to participate, or asking them to sign up - even if trivial
- will almost assuredly result in decimation of the group.


The limited and possibly declining membership of the RPML is extremely
valuable to hang on to. We should try to make it grow and encourage
greater participation. That can best be done by remaining on-topic and
posting some good stuff, avoiding nasty responses and sniping, and
making sure we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.


I didn't support the precipitous attempts in the past to immediately
abandon ship when troubles arose. First, none of the attempts to
establish a new group had ever worked. Second, after years and years of
service I think we owed the list owners and technical gurus more than a
little loyalty.


Hannu and Seppo still get 51% of the votes, as far as I'm concerned.


Ed Grenda
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