RE: Nice.....but...... RE: [rp-ml] Stratasys stock soars on news of 3-D printer deal with Hewlett-Packard

From: Jeremy Pullin <>
Date: Thu Jan 21 2010 - 17:46:10 EET

3D will not replace the 2D document any more than the 2D document has
replaced the spoken word (although obviously it can accompany and
compliment it). Your saying that somebody should look at ways of doing
this but to be honest my question would be why on earth would you want
to replace the 2D document. If you ignore hardware prices by arguing
that they are coming down all of the time (and open source RepRap etc) a
piece of paper is still a heck of a lot cheaper than lumps of modelling
and support materials. There is also an environmental impact to be
considered. Sure people will moan about rainforests being chopped down
to produce paper but a single sheet of paper along with the ink or toner
required is far more environmentally friendly than a 3D piece of
I also have to pick up on your statement when you say that we can build
anything. I could go into reams of examples of reasons why this
statement is simply not true and site examples but as panto season has
just about finished and my pantomime dame outfit has barely started to
pick up dust for the next 10 months I'll just say "OH NO WE CAN'T".
The idea of putting written information onto 3D objects is far from new
and not at all specific to additive manufacturing. You only have to pick
up a Coke can to see it plastered in writing and logos covering not just
advertising but product specific information such as ingredients and
production process specific information such as use by dates. If that
isn't individual enough for you we have also had 1D and now 2D barcodes
appearing on 3D surfaces for years which carry a whole host of
individual component information. This fits into your suggestion of a
symbolic type of communication with the symbols being the lines or dots
of the barcodes.
I think this is a case of something that could be done not being the
same as something that should be done. Are you an academic by any
chance?. Having said that if you are desperate to stop using 2D
documents and have the information on your 3D parts then can I suggest
that rather than rushing off to set up standards committees for new
standards, upgrading you CAD software and growing all sorts of labels
sticking out of your parts you simply get a marker pen and annotate the
bits yourself. I think on the whole that will be easier and although I
haven't costed it out properly I would guess a little bit cheaper too.

        Jeremy Pullin
        Rapid Manufacturing Manager Renishaw Plc
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From: [] On
Behalf Of David Pinkston
Sent: 21 January 2010 13:17
Subject: Nice.....but...... RE: [rp-ml] Stratasys stock soars on news of
3-D printer deal with Hewlett-Packard

Nice........ but.........


Yea, it's nice to have a 3D part in your hands but to think that you'll
replace the 2D doc with a 3D part to communicate all the information
that's need to manufacture a component in production is more than a
little extreme. I'm not saying this couldn't happen but someone, and I
think it should be the RP industry, needs to come up with ways to
reflect the "written" communication into a "symbolic" type of
communication that can be applied to a 3D part indicating most if not
all the necessary information needed to produce the component in a
production arena. "We can build anything" so why not incorporate symbols
on or attached to parts indicating other information. GD&T is already
symbolic to an extent but we could do more, we have multiple surfaces to
put info on not just one like 2D. We don't have to stay on the component
it could attach and protrude from the component. So on and so


What would happen to this industry if we could replace the 2D doc?????


Am I just dreaming? This isn't the first this has been brought up is it?
Are there some that are doing something like this now in their facility?


Should we attempt to develop a standard for the RP industry that
incorporates 2D communication practices onto a 3D part? I think we
should and I'm not a RP equipment manufacture.


Anyway, just some thoughts and ramblings.


Dave P


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"Stratasys stock soars on news of 3-D printer deal with Hewlett-Packard

By Brad Allen | Published Wed, Jan 20 2010 9:53 am


Tuesday was a big day for Stratasys Inc. (Nasdaq: SSYS) after the
company announced it had inked an exclusive distribution deal with
Hewlett-Packard (NYSE:HPQ) to develop and manufacture an exclusive line
of 3-D printers.


Stratasys' stock shot up nearly 44 percent to reach a high of $25.60 on
the news, with trading of 2.6 million shares, more than 25 times normal






Stratasys' N/R:


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