Re: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?

From: Yasser Hosni <>
Date: Wed Jun 09 2010 - 00:55:55 EEST

I am almost sure that many of the ideas floating around must have been
considered by those working on a solution. My reason for this is that
most of those are just ideas (IDEAS) generated out of frustration (no
deep thinking, experimenting, prototyping, ..etc) . Every time I look at
the CNN viewing of the continuos gushing of this oil, I get 100's of
Converting an idea to a design and practical process/ product to be
applied in water at that depth and temperature within a certain time
frame is not easy, especially when you are doing it through robots!
Whoever is deciding on the worth of an idea would have to consider many
many factors that non of us is aware of (except if you are specialist)
is selecting a design/ process that is worth pursuing!
I share the frustration, and I have no choice but to trust those who
are working on it, and hoping for the best.
Take care,
Yasser Hosni
>>> "G. Sachs" <> 6/8/2010 3:56 PM >>>
Again, Jeffrey, you are ignoring the depth and pressures down there. I
a lot of the ideas coming in to BP (though why they have to go through
them at all, I don't understand or agree with) forget this very
important parameter to the problem. There really are no super-simple
solutions for this. BP has said there are NO quick fixes, but I still
hold out hope there might be 1-2. If we could get three astronauts back
from the moon during Apollo 13, I think we can do this as well. Then
again, we placed a lot more faith in our scientist and engineers back
then, and also gave them a lot more resources to work with. America,
really does seem to be in decline sometimes - this may be one of those

From: "Bagley, Jeffrey K HS" <>
To: Carl Dekker <>; G. Sachs
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 3:33:25 PM
Subject: RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf

Perhaps high technology might not be the answer. The problem is after
all pretty basic, an open pipe leaking fluid. Why not try a pretty
basic solution. Perhaps something like a wooden telephone pole ground
with a shallow angle to a point on one end and on the other end install
a metallic cap that would allow the pole to be pile driven into the
pipe. This temporary fix might stop or slow the leakage enough to allow
time for a more robust and permanent solution.
Jeff Bagley [] On
Behalf Of Carl Dekker
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:53 PM
To: G. Sachs;
Subject: RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf

My first thoughts would be autonomous vehicles with
interchangeable/cargo filtration type devices capable of separating and
containing the oil that is floating in the water at, and below the
surface. I can’t help but imagine that this disaster will spread with
the currents ultimately destroying and enormous amount of marine ecology
that will take decades to repair. The long term impacts of this type of
devastation is mind-boggling. Every time I think of it, I feel bad to
be part of the human race. And yes, this idea is FREE!!! Please take
Time is not on our side with this one! I truly hope they can start the
repair process SOON!
P.S. I hope they already have a plethora of ideas for stopping the

Thank you,
Carl Dekker
Phone: (630) 409-9860 Ext 227 [] On
Behalf Of G. Sachs
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf


I was wonder how various RP processes, including AM, might help in the
Gulf oil disaster. I don't expect the "geniuses" at BP (or even in the
government) to have spent much time thinking about that one. I have at
st one idea, and thought it might be a good way to RM a higher

First suggestion I have:
Use scanners to scan the badly cut wellhead and then create a CAD model
of the opening. Make a perfectly mating pipe joint that can have a
rubber seal attached to it. Use rapid prototyping in combination with
rapid casting to create this joint. This could be tried before trying to
make another better cut (and might be faster). And - by the way, BP -
this idea isn't free, if you don't already have it in your little
"suggestion box" of free ideas (that you and your buddies in the
government won't release to the public). I am sure at this time of
crisis, BP likes nothing better than getting all those helpful free
suggestions and volunteers. Poor BP, they need all the free help they
can get, I guess.

G. Sachs
Paradyme Systems U.S.A.
Received on Wed Jun 09 00:53:49 2010

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